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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="610345096">Bryan Williams</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="610345096">Bryan Williams</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question. I haven&#039;t tried the More Fields or the Custom Field Template plugins. I&#039;ll give them a look though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. I haven&#8217;t tried the More Fields or the Custom Field Template plugins. I&#8217;ll give them a look though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your opinion how does this plugin compare with More Fields and Custom Field Template plugins? They are very similar from what I&#039;ve seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your opinion how does this plugin compare with More Fields and Custom Field Template plugins? They are very similar from what I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.bryankwilliams.com/flutter-major-step-in-using-wordpress-as-a-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it&#039;s easy, try if(get(&#039;variable_name&#039;)){ echo get(&#039;variable_name&#039;); }; That should check to see if there is a value there in the first place and then show the result if there is a value. Hopefully that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#8217;s easy, try if(get(&#8216;variable_name&#8217;)){ echo get(&#8216;variable_name&#8217;); }; That should check to see if there is a value there in the first place and then show the result if there is a value. Hopefully that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for this post. I recently discovered Flutter as well and I love it. Though I will take a look at Magic Fields as well just for the fact that it has more documentation. 

I was wondering though if you knew of a way to hide a field from appearing on a page in Flutter when there is no information entered for that field. For example, if I have a field for entering in a URL, but it is left empty, is there an if statement I can use to not show the field if nothing is entered? 

Thanks for the help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for this post. I recently discovered Flutter as well and I love it. Though I will take a look at Magic Fields as well just for the fact that it has more documentation. </p>
<p>I was wondering though if you knew of a way to hide a field from appearing on a page in Flutter when there is no information entered for that field. For example, if I have a field for entering in a URL, but it is left empty, is there an if statement I can use to not show the field if nothing is entered? </p>
<p>Thanks for the help!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually a pretty big reason why I made the switch from Flutter. #1 was because Magic Fields removes a lot of the complicated buggy stuff from the plugin, that I wasn&#039;t using anyways and #2 was it seems that Flutter has more or less been dropped, but Magic Fields still has an active community and more documentation and resources. 

Thanks for the comment hunk. I appreciate you taking the time to read and comment and really appreciate the work on the plugin. It&#039;s a great plugin and am finding I use it on almost every custom theme I code now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually a pretty big reason why I made the switch from Flutter. #1 was because Magic Fields removes a lot of the complicated buggy stuff from the plugin, that I wasn&#8217;t using anyways and #2 was it seems that Flutter has more or less been dropped, but Magic Fields still has an active community and more documentation and resources. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment hunk. I appreciate you taking the time to read and comment and really appreciate the work on the plugin. It&#8217;s a great plugin and am finding I use it on almost every custom theme I code now.</p>
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		<title>By: hunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bryan, amanda you can find documentation of magic fields in the wiki (http://wiki.magicfields.org/doku.php) or google group (http://groups.google.com/group/magic-fields), there is a very active community. 

there are times we can not respond because we have other activities. but we try to answer as many questions as we can</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bryan, amanda you can find documentation of magic fields in the wiki (<a href="http://wiki.magicfields.org/doku.php" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.magicfields.org/doku.php</a>) or google group (<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/magic-fields" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/magic-fields</a>), there is a very active community. </p>
<p>there are times we can not respond because we have other activities. but we try to answer as many questions as we can</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes finding clear instructions for Flutter or Magic Fields is difficult, that&#039;s the reason why I wanted to share what I&#039;ve found in my post. Hopefully I can help you out. 

Are you talking about on the write pages or in the actual pages that show up on the site in your theme? You can remove the custom fields data on your write page the same way you remove the Wordpress default fields. It&#039;s when you create or edit the panel itself there are some checkboxes that allow you to hide the standard fields including the custom fields. If you&#039;ve done that, try clearing your local cache. I know some of the styling changes I make to the admin don&#039;t kick in immediately because of caching.

If that wasn&#039;t helpful or you need some more help with it, send me an email using the form in the footer of my site and we can exchange screenshots or IM. The plugin is a pain at first, but once you get it, the possibilities and flexibility with wp increases greatly. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes finding clear instructions for Flutter or Magic Fields is difficult, that&#8217;s the reason why I wanted to share what I&#8217;ve found in my post. Hopefully I can help you out. </p>
<p>Are you talking about on the write pages or in the actual pages that show up on the site in your theme? You can remove the custom fields data on your write page the same way you remove the Wordpress default fields. It&#8217;s when you create or edit the panel itself there are some checkboxes that allow you to hide the standard fields including the custom fields. If you&#8217;ve done that, try clearing your local cache. I know some of the styling changes I make to the admin don&#8217;t kick in immediately because of caching.</p>
<p>If that wasn&#8217;t helpful or you need some more help with it, send me an email using the form in the footer of my site and we can exchange screenshots or IM. The plugin is a pain at first, but once you get it, the possibilities and flexibility with wp increases greatly. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Church</title>
		<link>http://www.bryankwilliams.com/flutter-major-step-in-using-wordpress-as-a-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stumbled across your blog when looking for help with Magic Fields. I&#039;ve tried their &quot;support forum&quot; which is just a joke, and even the Wordpress support forum, but have gotten no response, so I was wondering, since you&#039;ve been using Magic Fields, if you&#039;ve encountered this problem and if so, how did you fix it.

I created three templates for a client site (he deals with three types of vehicles and I needed something simple so his secretary could enter in the specification data for the vehicles.) The problem is, the page displays with both the Magic Fields data and the Wordpress default custom fields data. I can hide the default custom fields on the write panel, but I can&#039;t find anyway to eliminate them from the actual page. I&#039;ve dug through all the Magic Fields settings and available documentation (that took all of about 30 seconds), but I can&#039;t find an answer. Maybe it&#039;s something so simple I&#039;m overlooking it, but have you encountered this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled across your blog when looking for help with Magic Fields. I&#8217;ve tried their &#8220;support forum&#8221; which is just a joke, and even the Wordpress support forum, but have gotten no response, so I was wondering, since you&#8217;ve been using Magic Fields, if you&#8217;ve encountered this problem and if so, how did you fix it.</p>
<p>I created three templates for a client site (he deals with three types of vehicles and I needed something simple so his secretary could enter in the specification data for the vehicles.) The problem is, the page displays with both the Magic Fields data and the Wordpress default custom fields data. I can hide the default custom fields on the write panel, but I can&#8217;t find anyway to eliminate them from the actual page. I&#8217;ve dug through all the Magic Fields settings and available documentation (that took all of about 30 seconds), but I can&#8217;t find an answer. Maybe it&#8217;s something so simple I&#8217;m overlooking it, but have you encountered this problem?</p>
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